We view them from our myopic, monotheistic (most of us being educated based on european-christain standards) point of view. when you realize your true self warring mentality does not make anymore sense. This would create an easy vulnerability for any enemy to exploit and result in defeat. on a large vision and deep understanding about the respective subject Satyaki attacked Burishwara, but after some time, Burishwara knocked down Satyaki from his chariot. Here also you have no choice either you can believe or consequence of that which may be disastrous. Sanjeev " how do you know that krishna was established in present". Krishna in Mahabharata says, “What they are doing is adharma; what we are doing is also adharma, but we are doing it with an intention of establishing dharma. A sly-looking man came and he said to Krishna, “I stand away from risky actions, the dens of lions and I walk the path of safety, escape the wrath of God and by this, I know peace will come to me.” Krishna said, “Your dharma is the child of cowardice. What "present", everything in present only, i don't see anything in past or future, everything i experience is present, i can experience only the present. All lies, says Krishna by J. Rajasekharan Nair is the author’s interpretation of the events during the Mahabharata war, through Krishna’s point of view. Also read: After Ramayan and Mahabharat, now Shri Krishna to return on DD. How can anyone experience just present without knowing past and future. Zachary's story is closely connected to an array of beautiful stories/myths that focus on the unique ability to make the impossible possible. Krishna was just ensuring the Dharma was preserved and that evil did not prevail. It is difficult to accept that this article has been written by sadhguru. Mahabharat is the startup point of Indian Politics. I am saying happenings because, i assume the author thinks the Mahabharata actually … Namaste to all. The Palace of Illusions is no substitute for the real Mahabharata, of course, but it’s a good place to start. Burishwara’s right hand got severed. The complete Mahabharat is a philosophical conversation between different people. "Krishna didn't want this"...you have to be an absolute moron to believe that if He the Lord Himself.. din't want this..it would have still happened. Seeing this,Jayadrada was absolutely thrilled and relieved, because he thought the battle was over for the day, and he had survived, which meant Arjuna would die that day. may i ask you what is "present" first. But, when the inevitable has happened he ensured that the result is complete. It is very hard for us to let go of black and white, right and wrong, good and evil , god and satan, etc and then view circumstances, and in this case ancient happenings. BECAUSE we say that Lord Krishna is an incarnation of Lord Vishnu, BUT WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT, and our Dharm Gurus also do not want that to happen. The way I can understand.. The one who is in present can decide to do anything for establishing DHARMA, as far as possible within the legal framework but if it is must will break the law also but in very selective and do or die situations. Mahabharat brings to life one of the greatest Indian mythologies of all times. Sadhguru gave the example of: an eye for an eye, which usually for Krishna has always tried to avert the war. We saw what a Che Guevara did, what a Hitler did and so on. He did not say what he was doing was right – he knew it was wrong. Pandava won, that why we still are believing in dharma, satya, suppose in case Kaurava, won A6: Alas, thats cruel. Both Krishna and Arjuna were screaming, “Stop! U tried hard above.. but it does not cut ice with me. So in that context I think Ajaya: Rise of Kali is a 2015 Indian novel of mythological fiction written by Anand Neelakantan. As a woman she was exploited by her father, Drupad, her Pandava husbands, and even her friend, Lord Krishna. It is so easy to say that means is no justification to end. And what he said about Krishna also makes sense. Krishna as the supreme Vishnu wills the changes of the Yugas. Devotion, Sadhguru says, means to keep all the doors and windows open, so that one is always available to grace. That is why he did all this. knows? He wanted to quit the battle and go home. and about life. No, it isn’t a rendition of the Gita, but rather a comprehensive account of the events that actually led to the war. Abhimanyu enters chakravyuha - stone carving at the Hoysaleswara temple, Halebid, India. It is a story so epic that it has an epic name: the Mahabharata. The whole argument should stop if everyone seems from Karma palan of individuals point of view. He knew he was right as he was a realised being and did not divide the world between who are capitalist and who are proletarians.. We all know what our mother did for us to save us from father fierce eyes... just to protect us from rage of our angry father she might have done many mistaken, might have said hundreds of lies... just to protect you.. How will you judge your mother... did she brought you up with proper dharma??? Reply. This was different from the previous books. Basically what is dharma and what is adharma? the intention is good, not the end, or assumed end, because the end was not good in the example you mentioned). Then the game of dice, which was total cheating, and the disgrace of trying to disrobe Draupadi in public. Currently the Dharma of people depends on how may questions they are capable of thinking. But I think one should not get too much attached to a certain image of Sadhguru because he is never the same. Anand Neelakantan’s Ajaya is the story of Jaya, or the Mahabharata as we popularly know the epic. It is a question of purpose, and of whether you would be successful within the limitations of the law or not. But the consequence of that is: if you go by that as a general rule, the whole world may The second day, they started breaking the law, and by the fourteenth, fifteenth day, all law was broken. While I was fighting with another man, you shot me from behind and severed my hand? because what we get from Mahabharata is just Ved vyas narration basically we read vyas’s point of view on the event of Mahabharata. Krishna in Mahabharata says, “What they are doing is adharma; what we are doing is also adharma, but we are doing it with an intention of establishing dharma. He was for the Dharma that can be followed by both the sides, just that the Kauravas were not keen at all. half knowledge is always harmful.... Krishna has already declared before the war dat war would be played by mind games nd cheating. Like kunti for hiding truth,karn for fighting against pandavas,draupadi for being arrogant at some points.etc. But you should not just take it like that, you just see if it makes any sense to you or not. It all depends on the situation in which a person is placed. I doubt that a Che Guevara would be qualified for such a thing. After twelve years of exile in the forest, the cousin refuses to return the kingdom, and the Pandavas go to war against the Kauravas. Such as the burning of forests, the massacre of tribal people, wars of horrific destruction using terrible weapons and the deaths of millions of innocents. In the world of 'dwaita', it is the rule. Let us put this conversation to an end with this excellent remark I heard in an English movie long back: " Justice cannot be done without a little bit of injustice". The kauravas were fighting the war out of a complex arrangement of envy and hatred towards the pandavas which was a development from childhood days.. moreover they also had lust and greed for the land.. Krishna was fighting for dharma which means in the moment he would not allow the party which is lost in unconscious intentions collectively to achieve a position of victory or power.. Hello sumit, I see what you're saying but..."an eye for an eye would mean that the world would be blind" So it seems that the ultimate outcome is definitely not good. There is no confusion. ... Hindus written here in the comments to give a picture of how bias against Indian ethics can be answered with a broader view point. NEW DELHI–If you are in Delhi, you may want to watch play “Mahabharat” written by and directed by Puneet Issar. A4: fine, but not 100% fine. I think there is confusion in this arguement. Che guevara was working for achieving something in which he had self-investment.. Krishna is a man established in present. Save him.” Arjuna said, “No. Mahabharata has been a perennial source of fascination for him, says Mullakkara. Both sides can argue to be right, so in that sense, can not accept what Krishna did. Major Characters: Panchaali, Arjun, Yudhishthir, Bhim, Krishna, Duryodhan, Karna, Dhristadhyumna, Drauna, Bhishma, Narration: First Person (Draupadi’s Point of view). Dharma and Adharma all belong to the supreme. Karna replied back to Krishna that he has to fulfil his duties towards Duryodhan. Karna aimed it at Arjuna’s forehead, and was about to shoot and kill him. I dont think dharma means you oppose only by going on a fast when the opponent is waiting to chop off your head the moment you sit for fasting. Can adharma create dharma? It is rich and wonderful story-weaving. Plus,The essence of Mahabharat lies in Bhagvada Gita. Satyaki became conscious again and looked around, completely bewildered. Someone described how they had surrounded him from all sides and slain him. Many Hindus believe that Duryodhana was the personification of Kali. In this context I totally agree with the point that Krishna's intention was to uphold dharma whereas Kauravas always used dharma as a excuse and were adharmic all through their life. Krishna's actions are not tactical. One can thus go on reading it again and again without it becoming stale or boring. But the sun came back, and Arjuna shot Jayadrada and he fell. disbelieve him, both not going to help you in spiritual growth. sadhguru himself says so that you cannot choose any means for the end even if the end is good. And many a time Sadhguru has said the intention is important because action could be limited by the outside and this article is very much consistent in ideas. We are discussing about Bhisma and we are right in the middle of the Mahabharat war. Q3: If killing is right or wrong?. A quick shoutout to FingerPrint! But what he was trying to achieve was right. Many times, Krishna did such things. refer his video on chi guevara and how he said that an eye Anything done to stop the progress of adharma (even adharmic means) is a part of dharma. Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni has taken one of the fundamental pieces of Indian literature and focused on the story of Panchaali. I think here Krishna's actions cannot be compared to chi guevara's policies of eye for an eye. But when Krishna does, how does it qualify as leela? Alas there is no krishna I see to saving them daily! - he is just another human like you and me, isn't it.. what i just questioned was 2 contradictory thoughts that he spoke off". But if I need to talk about myself, to be honest I would never jump to such judgements about good and bad because I'm not qualified for this. I think there is no need to find justification of what krishna or someone did then bcos first of all we dont know whether such a thing happened and even if it happened we r trying to justify someones action bcos we assume tat person to be our god and hence in the process solidifying our fundamentalist roots further. Why would he give up his dharmic badge to help a handful of warriors in exile ? few questions Mr Jaiswal :"truth has multiple levels and is relative to situations" - how do we know this? but what is the existence of positive with out negative. as: "you can choose any means for the end, if you think the end is The Silkworm by Robert Galbraith (Cormoran Strike #2), A Hiatus from the Loaded Past by Snehashree Mandal. a thief or dacoit prays to god for safely robbing or stealing a house. In my view he is one of the "qualified" ones, because of everything that he is :-). For example, the Krishna and Shiva elements found in Mahabharata are foreign to the early Vedic and Brahmanic periods and there is complete assimilation of the two. Krishna was in the Dharma, his vision and perception was clear. From the point of view of mythology Mahabharata stands midway between Vedic and later puranic periods. The second installment of the Ajaya series, it tells the story of the Kauravas. Said to be the world's longest poem, Mahabharata was originally composed in 100,000 Sanskrit verses by the ancient Indian sage Vyasa. In a pivotal episode of the ancient Hindu epic Mahabharata, which was probably composed sometime in the last few centuries before the Common Era, a woman called Draupadi is dragged into a royal dicing hall. The Bookish Elf is a site you can rely on for book reviews, author interviews, book recommendations, and all things books. The idea that the any good purpose/ motive to be established by any means is correct is a question itself. What they were facing in the war was colossal evil. It becomes difficult for a questioning and doubtful mind to absorb the essence of words of the Guru. When Arjuna saw that the king was left unprotected, he got concerned. Don’t do this, Satyaki!” But Satyaki loped off Burishwara’s head, while the latter was sitting with eyes closed. Ajaya tells us the story from Suyodhana’s, or as we all know him commonly as Duryodhana, point of view. He didn't see only steps 1, 2, 3, but the very end, or probably a certain stage that people needed to face in that period of time, in that era. So putting an end to such injustice is far dharmic than just watching talking dharma. This was much more than just deception. Krishna Dharma is a practicing Hindu priest and renowned translator of the world’s most popular, award-winning editions of India’s great epics, the Mahabarata and the Ramayana.Appearing regularly on the radio, Krishna Dharma is also a frequent contributor to the international press. I don't take this as Sadhguru's advice for the world Though their thoughts and ideas are different from us. People did what they wanted and killed each other at will. Q2: But the victim was a dacoit, is it fine now??. ... hi i am ajay, there are some people in India who still have a doubt about the occurrence of MAHABHARATA war. A1: Wrong. ..nd yes dey wanted pandavas to win..coz dey wanted to teach a lesson to kalyug people wat should b the punishment nd result of any typ of physical harrasment of a grl..coz 1st sign of appearing of kalyug was wen day by day grls would b killed nd phyical harrased by people.. It is only a fundamentalist mind which xannot accept anything of this kund from its god so looking for a valid reason behind it. What's needed instead is maximum vigilance for the truth. In case he had the strength, he would have done that, but even an eye for an eye did not help him win. Krishna, an incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu, endorses dishonesty on more than one occasion. Even at the beginning of the War he was open to join both parties.. he just acted as was necessary/dharmic in that moment.. Publishing who sent me this copy. a house owner always prays to god before going to sleep to protect his from robbery or theft. Satyaki threw the hand away, picked up the sword, and went towards Burishwara. To know more about this course, please visit: bhakticourses.com Transcribed by : Sadananda Das Transcription : Welcome back to the Mahabharat character series. Having said that Che was of the view if you are not with us then you are against us, which is a clear case of extremism, why does an extremist need to be replaced by another. But overcome by personal emotions, he left Yudhisthira’s side and went towards Burishwara to attack him. Think abt it friend.. it is much deeper. The war of Kurukshetra itself was the great act of Adharma and it belonged to both sides. Draupadi (Sanskrit: द्रौपदी, romanized: draupadī, lit. People of compare the relationship between Vishnu and Krishna to the Christian belief of God and Jesus. There was an endless number of events that led to this war. Q4: The one who killed doesn't know that victim was a dacoit, is it fine now??. According to Krishna the fair war is only possible when other side is also fair and they do not hit under the belt at every possible opportunity. But that’s a minor quibble compared to the tragic story, one of personal and epic scope, unfolded against the landscape of an India where magic is commonplace and gods walk among us. Since Author Chitra embraces her first person narrator, the epic scope of the source material suddenly becomes more personal. those things in order to create a big good result. For example, the Krishna and Shiva elements found in Mahabharata are foreign to the early Vedic and Brahmanic periods and there is complete assimilation of the two. Shooting him now would be against the Kshatriya dharma.” Krishna told him, “Satyaki has come here only to fight for you. Sadhguru once said that in a way he downloaded Krishna, Krishna Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. is a great virtue, or a great step for higher possibilities of knowing. Now I think we need more Krishnas, more Sadhgurus and more people with deep understanding about life, people with long term visions and not with "good" short ambitions to prove their childish ignorance. good". Otherwise, I will kill myself.” Hearing this, Duryodhana was overjoyed. The Last Lumenian offers a huge story, a story that spans Seven Galaxies and includes many heroes and gods. And I agree with that, because we won't find many Krishnas among ourselves :-). From kauravas point of view, Krishna was an enemy. For the first time in history, this new version of Mahabharat presents the point … But Satyaki was exalted, because he had been able to take revenge at last. He was just talking about Krishna here, explaining why he did Morgenstern has created a tale out of tales, a fable out of the human need to seek and explain, to dream and understand. However, Ajaya is a narration of the Mahabharata from the Kaurava’s point of view, the vanquished. In the eighteenth book of the Mahabharata, The Bhagavad-Gita (“Song of the Supreme Exalted One”), Krishna appears as the charioteer of Arjuna. Anyone who has Kshatriya blood in him wouldn’t do such a dastardly act. : (, Dorin.. Every one in the story as far as i read, did a mistake willingly... even if they know that it's wrong (adharma) but, Abhimanyu...who's just a 17 year old boy, who never made a mistake as far as the story is up to, died in the war. If I miss something here, then please tell me, because I really don't see where is the contradiction in what Sadhguru said. But the next moment, they were the same again. May I ask "what is truth" first.. also sadhguru himself said that truth is not relative. "How does sadhguru know why krishna did what he did" - How does HE ALSO READ | Mahabharat Written Update May 25: Krishna's Plans Get Rejected. 1. Karna in Mahabharat is depicted as one of the most complex characters. Narrated by Panchaali, the wife of the legendary Pandavas brothers in the Mahabharat, the novel gives us a new interpretation of this ancient tale. Imagine the situation what would be we, for us all pandava would be enemy and krishna would be the enemy no. “Krishna is 99% human in the epic. I may see 1, 2... maybe 3 but not too much more. Producer Madhu Mantena added: "While we have all consumed the Mahabharata all our lives, the uniqueness of our film is seeing the same story from the point of view … Arjuna was totally aghast about what Satyaki had done. become blind. Che Guevara? The level of injustice that Duryodhana, Shakuni, Karna, and all the others created from day one was too high, from the time they tried to murder Bhima by poisoning him, and by tying him up and putting him in the river. We will deploy all our forces to protect you.”. Clarifying the cross-dressing point that was raised by the Mahabharat actor, Khanna stated he doesn't have a problem with men dressing as a woman. And due to this reason, none of the existing text can have a verbatim attribut… When they were at a disadvantage, they were talking dharma as a tool to benefit from. 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